[SUMMARY] Compiling perl 5.8.0 64-bit using gcc 3.2.1

From: David Foster <foster_at_dim.ucsd.edu>
Date: Tue Jul 08 2003 - 14:14:10 EDT
In order to compile Perl 5.8.0 64-bit using gcc 3.2.1 on our E420R I 
needed to specify -shared:

   * Add -shared to the link line, in addition to -Wl,-E -G, for instance:
        LD_RUN_PATH="" gcc  -Wl,-E -G -L/usr/local/lib -shared \
                bsd_glob.o Glob.o  -o ../../../lib/auto/File/Glob/Glob.so
   * In config.sh:
        lddlflags=' -Wl,-E -G -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib/pic/sparcv9 -shared'
   * In Makefile:
        LDDLFLAGS =  -Wl,-E -G -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib/pic/sparcv9 -shared

Thanks to Kevin P. Inscoe! He sent me the following link:

	http://www.netsys.com/sunmgr/1999-01/msg00100.html
	
One suggestion to bail on gcc as it's support for 64-bit is still
pretty flaky (I agree). I had already tried Sun's Workshop 6.0 and
Forte compilers and got even worse results, plus I really wanted to
stay with gcc since you need to use the same compiler for your Perl
modules.

Thanks to:

Glenn Harrison
Peter Evans
Kevin P. Inscoe

> 
> Platform: SunOS cressida 5.8 Generic_108528-18 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-80
> Compiler: gcc 3.2.1
> Currently installed perl:  binary of 5.8.0 from www.sunfreeware.com (32-bit)
> 
> 
> Ughhh!
> 
> I have a pressing need to get our Perl 5.8.0 compiled 64-bit. 
> I _finally_ got through the configuration stage and I think I 
> have a pretty sane config.sh (attached).
> 
> But the make bombs out with:
> 
> gcc -L/usr/local/lib  -o miniperl \
>     miniperlmain.o opmini.o libperl.a
> /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparcv9-sun-solaris2.8/3.2.1/../../../../sparcv9-sun-s
> olaris2.8/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/local/lib/libgcc.so when searchi
> ng for -lgcc
> /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparcv9-sun-solaris2.8/3.2.1/../../../../sparcv9-sun-s
> olaris2.8/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/local/lib/libgcc.so when searchi
> ng for -lgcc
> libperl.a(util.o): In function `Perl_my_socketpair':
> util.o(.text+0x6270): undefined reference to `socketpair'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_pow':
> pp.o(.text+0x3d78): undefined reference to `pow'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_modulo':
> pp.o(.text+0x4bcc): undefined reference to `floor'
> pp.o(.text+0x4c08): undefined reference to `floor'
> pp.o(.text+0x4c84): undefined reference to `fmod'
> [...]
> 
> which proceeds to list a bunch of routines from -lm, -lsocket and -lnsl.
> A full log of the make is in the attached file Install.make2.Apr2.2003
> 
> But in my config.sh:
> 
> libsfiles=' libsocket.so.1 libnsl.so.1 libdl.so.1 libm.so.1 libc.so.1'
> libsfound=' /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsocket.so.1 /usr/lib/sparcv9/libnsl.so.1 /usr
> /lib/sparcv9/libdl.so.1 /usr/lib/sparcv9/libm.so.1 /usr/lib/sparcv9/libc.so.1
> '
> [...]
> libswanted='sfio socket bind inet nsl nm ndbm gdbm dbm db dl dld sun m c cpos
> ix posix ndir dir bsd BSD PW x util '
> 
> 
> WTF? I don't see anything in the archives or FAQ.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
>   =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>    David Foster    National Center for Microscopy and Imaging Research
>     Programmer/Analyst       University of California, San Diego
>     dfoster[at]ucsd[dot]edu  Department of Neuroscience, Mail 0608
>     (858) 534-7968           http://ncmir.ucsd.edu/
>   =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> 
>    "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
>    persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore, all progress
>    depends on the unreasonable."   -- George Bernard Shaw
> 
> [demime 0.99c.7 removed an attachment of type APPLICATION/x-sun-shell-script 
which had a name of config.sh]
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" miniperlmain.o`  miniperlmain.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" perl.o`  perl.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" gv.o`  gv.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" toke.o`  toke.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" perly.o`  perly.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" op.o`  op.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" regcomp.o`  regcomp.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" dump.o`  dump.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" util.o`  util.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" mg.o`  mg.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" reentr.o`  reentr.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" hv.o`  hv.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" av.o`  av.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" run.o`  run.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" pp_hot.o`  pp_hot.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" sv.o`  sv.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" pp.o`  pp.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" scope.o`  scope.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" pp_ctl.o`  pp_ctl.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" pp_sys.o`  pp_sys.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" doop.o`  doop.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" doio.o`  doio.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" regexec.o`  regexec.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" utf8.o`  utf8.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" taint.o`  taint.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" deb.o`  deb.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" universal.o`  universal.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" xsutils.o`  xsutils.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" globals.o`  globals.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" perlio.o`  perlio.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" perlapi.o`  perlapi.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" numeric.o`  numeric.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" locale.o`  locale.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" pp_pack.o`  pp_pack.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" pp_sort.o`  pp_sort.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> rm -f libperl.a
> /usr/local/bin/ar rcu libperl.a perl.o  gv.o toke.o perly.o op.o regcomp.o 
dump.o util.o mg.o reentr.o hv.o av.o run.o pp_hot.o sv.o pp.o scope.o pp_ctl.o 
pp_sys.o doop.o doio.o regexec.o utf8.o taint.o deb.o universal.o xsutils.o 
globals.o perlio.o perlapi.o numeric.o locale.o pp_pack.o pp_sort.o 
> rm -f opmini.c
> cp op.c opmini.c
> `sh  cflags "optimize='-O'" opmini.o`  -DPERL_EXTERNAL_GLOB opmini.c
> 	  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=v9 -m64 
-mcpu=v9 -m64 -Wa,-xarch=v9 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall
> rm -f opmini.c
> gcc -L/usr/lib/sparcv9 -L/usr/local/lib  -o miniperl \
>     miniperlmain.o opmini.o libperl.a 
> 
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparcv9-sun-solaris2.8/3.2.1/../../../../sparcv9-sun-sola
ris2.8/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/local/lib/libgcc.so when searching for 
-lgcc
> 
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparcv9-sun-solaris2.8/3.2.1/../../../../sparcv9-sun-sola
ris2.8/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/local/lib/libgcc.so when searching for 
-lgcc
> libperl.a(util.o): In function `Perl_my_socketpair':
> util.o(.text+0x6270): undefined reference to `socketpair'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_pow':
> pp.o(.text+0x3d78): undefined reference to `pow'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_modulo':
> pp.o(.text+0x4bcc): undefined reference to `floor'
> pp.o(.text+0x4c08): undefined reference to `floor'
> pp.o(.text+0x4c84): undefined reference to `fmod'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_atan2':
> pp.o(.text+0xb274): undefined reference to `atan2'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_sin':
> pp.o(.text+0xb420): undefined reference to `sin'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_cos':
> pp.o(.text+0xb60c): undefined reference to `cos'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_exp':
> pp.o(.text+0xbc90): undefined reference to `exp'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_log':
> pp.o(.text+0xbed0): undefined reference to `log'
> libperl.a(pp.o): In function `Perl_pp_sqrt':
> pp.o(.text+0xc124): undefined reference to `sqrt'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_sysread':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x6398): undefined reference to `recvfrom'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_send':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x7210): undefined reference to `sendto'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x7230): undefined reference to `send'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_socket':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x8d20): undefined reference to `socket'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_sockpair':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x9268): undefined reference to `socketpair'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_bind':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x95f8): undefined reference to `bind'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_connect':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x98ac): undefined reference to `connect'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_listen':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x9b0c): undefined reference to `listen'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_accept':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x9dac): undefined reference to `accept'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_shutdown':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0xa1c8): undefined reference to `shutdown'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_ssockopt':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0xa53c): undefined reference to `getsockopt'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0xa604): undefined reference to `setsockopt'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_getpeername':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0xa8b0): undefined reference to `getsockname'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0xa8c4): undefined reference to `getpeername'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_gnetent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x126a8): undefined reference to `getnetbyname'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x1271c): undefined reference to `getnetbyaddr'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x1272c): undefined reference to `getnetent'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12758): undefined reference to `h_errno'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x1275c): undefined reference to `h_errno'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12764): undefined reference to `h_errno'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x1276c): undefined reference to `h_errno'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_gprotoent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12a38): undefined reference to `getprotobyname'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12a78): undefined reference to `getprotobynumber'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12a88): undefined reference to `getprotoent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_gservent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12d78): undefined reference to `getservbyname'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12e08): undefined reference to `getservbyport'
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x12e18): undefined reference to `getservent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_snetent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x130ac): undefined reference to `setnetent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_sprotoent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x13158): undefined reference to `setprotoent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_sservent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x13204): undefined reference to `setservent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_enetent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x132c0): undefined reference to `endnetent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_eprotoent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x1337c): undefined reference to `endprotoent'
> libperl.a(pp_sys.o): In function `Perl_pp_eservent':
> pp_sys.o(.text+0x13438): undefined reference to `endservent'
> libperl.a(doio.o): In function `Perl_do_openn':
> doio.o(.text+0x1a10): undefined reference to `getsockname'
> libperl.a(pp_pack.o): In function `Perl_pack_cat':
> pp_pack.o(.text+0x84b4): undefined reference to `floor'
> pp_pack.o(.text+0x84e4): undefined reference to `floor'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [miniperl] Error 1
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  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
   David Foster    National Center for Microscopy and Imaging Research
    Programmer/Analyst       University of California, San Diego
    dfoster[at]ucsd[dot]edu  Department of Neuroscience, Mail 0608
    (858) 534-7968           http://ncmir.ucsd.edu/
  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

   "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
   persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore, all progress
   depends on the unreasonable."   -- George Bernard Shaw
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