SUMMARY: Off-Topic: Spammers targeting members of "Sunmanagers"

From: 'Chip Paswater' <turk182_at_chipware.net>
Date: Fri May 09 2003 - 18:18:03 EDT
In typical Sunmanagers tradition, here's the summary.

Many people stated that they have either gotten the exact same email from
directmidrange.com or they've gotten a similar one a few months ago.

Someone stated that they had been a customer of directmidrange.com
previously, and were not pleased with the experience:

"Interesting that you are getting mail from them. We bought from them once
and will never do it again. (We did not get any spam.)... We have had
nothing but problems with the machines (harddrives dieing, some of the
stuff looked "used" when we bought it new)... Also from what I have heard
from talking to Sun, they are not an authorized or prefered vendor....(One
of the two, can't remember which one.)"

I've also been told that someone has contacted the management of
directmidrange.com and made them aware of the situation.

It would appear that some level of targetted spamming is occuring.  Whether
it's an amateur operation mining list archives for email addresses, or a
company actually selling lists of Sun leads is unknown.  Please bear this
in mind next time you get a Sun specific cold-email to the same address you
subscribe to Sunmanagers with.

Thanks for all the great replies!


On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:42:48PM -0700, 'Chip Paswater' wrote:
> I apologize to the list for posting this off-topic email.  I was wondering
> if other people are getting targetting spams from Sun resellers?    This is
> the second one I've gotten, and this email below leads me to believe
> there's someone out there actively selling email addresses gleaned from
> this mailing list and selling them as "Sun leads".
> 
> Again, my sincere apologies.
> 
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from 'Chip Paswater' <turk182@chipware.net> -----
> 
> Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 23:34:10 -0700
> From: 'Chip Paswater' <turk182@chipware.net>
> To: Dan Donovan <ddonovan@directmidrange.com>
> Subject: Re: Hi Am I barking up the wrong tree???
> 
> Look dude, 
> 
> Yes, I buy Sun equipment.  But I honor vendors that go through the proper
> channels.  If I buy from you, I'm saying it's okay to spam me.  It's not
> okay.  I'm subscribed to Sunmanagers for support and help, not so I can be
> spammed.
> 
> Having said that, cold calling I don't mind.  What's the difference you ask?
> Cold calling requires SOME effort.  Spamming dosen't.  Cold calling is an
> accepted form of lead generation, spam is not.
> 
> Consider this next time you pay "good money" for spam leads.  
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 04:22:43PM -0700, Dan Donovan wrote:
> > Cmon Chip I paid good money for email address:)  If you use Sun I can
> > help you if not...say so and I'll move on. We offer very good pricing.
> > I'm just making a living...can I help you or not???
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chip Paswater [mailto:turk182@chipware.net] 
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 3:57 PM
> > To: Dan Donovan
> > Subject: Re: Hi Am I barking up the wrong tree???
> > 
> > Dan, 
> > 
> > Spam is not an effective way to market your business.
> > 
> > You probably pulled my name off Sunmanagers, right?
> > 
> > On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 03:36:30PM -0700, Dan Donovan wrote:
> > > Hi Chip, 
> > >  
> > > Am I barking up the wrong tree? I've been trying to identify if you
> > are
> > > the Sun Microsystems buyer for your company or department. Is there
> > > someone else who handles the hardware purchases? 
> > >  
> > > I don't want to waste your time or mine but as long as I think there
> > is
> > > a chance you buy Sun I know I can help. We offer aggressive
> > > pricing,delivery and avaiability.  Are there any opportunities for me
> > to
> > > provide a competitive quote?
> > >  
> > > My Best,
> > >  
> > > Dan Donovan
> > > Account Manager
> > > Direct Midrange Systems
> > > www.directmidrange.com
> > > Sun, Cisco and Veritas Provider
> > > US: 866-367-4786x230 fax: 866-367-4788
> > > INTERNATIONAL: 714-367-4786x230 fax: 714-367-4788
> > >  
> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----
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