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Hi Sun Managers,
I am very sorry for the late summary. I lost a SCSI disk and wanted,
if possible, to recover some or all of the data on the disk (my
original question is at the end of this letter). I got several replies,
of which the one from Harvey Wamboldt <email@example.com> was the
most extensive and very useful. I have below included Harvey's list of
things one could try to do to recover the data on a broken disk.
I tried several of his advices, but finally had to give up on the
Birger Wathne <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Harvey Wamboldt <email@example.com>
Rick Lantaigne <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Wade Stuart <Wade.Stuart@osagemn.com>
Rodney C. Marable <email@example.com>
Advice by Harvey Wamboldt <firstname.lastname@example.org> for trying to recover
data from a broken hard disk:
Assuming that you are prepared to write off the disk, there are a
couple of things you could try. It's important to try them in the
correct order, since they increase in risk until you reach the point
where the disk is effectively destroyed. In no particular order they
o Verify the disk is being cooled ... a failed fan is a common
problem, and the noise of a bad fan bearing is often mis-diagnosed
as a bad drive.
o Change cables and terminators (cables, SCSI IDs and terminations
are probably the major source of disk problems).
o (SCSI disks only) verify the SCSI termination voltage (both at the
computer and the disk). If the voltage is missing, try to
determine why and fix the problem. If the voltage is too low, try
enabling the termination voltage at both ends of the cable (this
is not normally recommended since it can lead to a ground loop
which increases noise levels). [If you are a hardware hacker and
the voltage is too low, you can even try replacing the termination
regulator with a higher drive component].
o Put the disk on a different power supply (usually by swapping it
to another enclosure).
o Try the disk on a different computer.
o If "mechanical" noises are coming from inside the disk, don't run
the disk until you've eliminated the source of the noise (or
verified that the disk can be run without destroying it).
o Physically remove the disk from all power sources, then observing
proper anti-static precautions, carefully open up the disk
enclosure. Determine whether the disk can be run with the case
open (ie everything is screwed in tight). Some disks can be run
with the case open. If the disk was making noises, try to
determine the source.
o DON'T TOUCH THE PLATTER SURFACES! (Or allow anything to come in
contact with them).
o Assuming everything is screwed in tight, turn the disk over and
shake it to see if anything falls out. If it does, try to
determine what it is and where it came from. If it's an
electrical component, chances are you may have to replace the
electronics (with electronics from an identical drive).
o Examine the platter surfaces for scratches (You will need a bench
light or flashlight for this). If a surface is scratched by one
of the heads (or arms), then that head is probably toast. Data on
that surface is probably unrecoverable unless you can replace the
head assembly and the scratching isn't too bad. If the scratching
is severe enough to affect the rotation of the disk, then that arm
may have to be bent or cut away to allow the disk to rotate
o Touching only the edge of the platters rotate the disk to check for
sticky or rough bearings (use something extremely clean for this,
hands aren't a particularly good choice, plastic [such as plastic
wrap] is generally better but is a major source of static so don't
let it touch the electronics).
o If the disk appears ok mechanically, then hook it up to power and
turn it on. If the disks don't start spinning, try giving them a
push. If that makes them go, then maybe the problem is the motor
is no longer powerful enough to start spinning the disk.
o You should be so lucky that the problem is a broken power lead,
but hey, you should check anyway.
o If the problem is the disk bearing (it's sticky or rough), then
you could try an infinitesimally small drop of ultra fine machine
oil on the bearing. This may smooth it out enough to run the
drive long enough to get some data off.
o If the problem is the head stepper motor assembly, then it is
theoretically possible to replace the head and stepper with an
identical unit from another drive. At a minimum this will require
a good assortment of miniature tools. Given the alignment (and
re-wiring) problems this will introduces, this procedure has a
pretty low chance of success.
o If there are no signs of mechanical problems then the problem may
be with power. Perform a continuity check on the power and
o If there are no signs of mechanical problems, and you have power
and ground continuity, then the problem may be with the
electronics. Do a comprehensive visual examination of the
electronics. Look for blackened or discoloured components,
examine the traces on the board, look for signs of heat (melting,
balled up solder, curled traces, etc). If you have an identical
drive, then you may be able to swap the electronics (this may
involve cutting, unsoldering and resoldering wires. Depending on
the drive this may be fairly easy or virtually impossible). Also,
note that drives which use EEPROM for various parameters may mean
difficulty recovering data even if the drive is usable after the
o Connect the drive to power and check voltages (you will need a
meter for this). Check the electronics board, the stepper motor,
and to the disk motor (assuming you can figure out where they are
and can reach them). Check the fuses (if you can find them). If
there is no power, you may be able to solder in a jumper wire to
bring in power (or ground).
o In all cases, you probably want a low level disk read/write
diagnostic program to determine the effect of the changes you
I'm certain that I've missed or messed up more than a few of the
suggestions offered here, so take all this advice with a grain a salt
and a pound of caution. And of course, if you aren't a certified
technician you shouldn't ever open up an electrical device anyway ;-)
There is a reason that data recovery companies charge so much,
***** THERE IS NO WARRANTEE OR GUARANTEE OF ANY KIND OFFERED *****
***** WITH THIS ADVICE. YOU'VE GOT EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE PAID *****
***** FOR... ;-) *****
Harvey M Wamboldt ^ E-Mail: email@example.com
MDA Inc 1000 Windmill Rd. Suite 60 ^ Fax: (902)468-2278
Dartmouth NS, B3B 1L7, Canada ^ Phone: (902)481-3531
My original question: Tips for recovering data from a broken SCSI disk
Hi Sun Managers,
I have an array of four 4GB disks, two IBM and two FUJITSU,
setup in a striped/concatenated metadevice using DiskSuite.
Yesterday one of the IBM disks (model IBM-DFHSS4W) started
logging hardware errors and before we could do an emergency
backup the disk stopped working. I wonder if any of you have
some tips of how one could try to get the disk working again so that
we could recover the lost data.
I have dismounted the broken disk from it's box and when I put power
on it I can hear that it starts spinning up for about 3-5 sec, then
there is a click sound followed by a short (1 sec) spinning up
sequence after which it spins down and stops.
The disk goes through this spin-up/spin-down equence twice then it stops
(no spinning sound can be heard).
One of our technicians told me to try to hit the disk (not too hard)
against the table on the side which is opposit to where to power and
the scsi connector is. I tried this but it did not help.
Before I give up and read back an 11 days old backup I thought I
should ask you guys for any possible advice.
I know there are companies in our country who can recover data
from crashed hard disks, but they are too expensive for us.
-- Johan Nyberg mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org http://www3.tsl.uu.se/~nyberg The Svedberg Laboratory, Uppsala Univ., BOX 533, S-75121 Uppsala, Sweden Tel: +46-18-4713047 (office), +46-18-324314 (home). Fax: +46-18-4713833
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