SUMMARY: Sun disk enclosures

From: Mike Frisch (mfrisch@saturn.tlug.org)
Date: Wed May 13 1998 - 22:12:21 CDT


With regard to my inquiry about Sun disk enclosures (original post at
bottom of message), I received the following responses:

Much thanks to those that responded. I now have the info I was looking
for.

Mike.

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>From jeffw@smoe.org Wed May 13 23:09:06 1998
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 21:00:34 -0400
From: Jeff Wasilko <jeffw@smoe.org>
To: Mike Frisch <mfrisch@saturn.tlug.org>
Subject: Re: Sun disk enclosures

On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 08:28:50PM -0400, Mike Frisch wrote:
>
> Where can I get info on the various disk enclosures that Sun has sold in
> the past few years? I am familiar with the Model 411 enclosure (open and
> closed face), but am interested in something that can hold 4 5.25" HH
> drives or 4 3.5" drives. What is a Model 611 and Model 811 that I've
> heard of and never seen?

I don't think Sun ever made anything that will hold 4 5.25" HH
devices (short of a multi-tape tray for rackmounted systems).

There is a 4 drive 'lunchbox' that's fairly old and holds 4 3.5"
drives. Its marketing name was the Multi-Disk Pack (not to be
confused with a MultiPack, which is the new multi-drive enclosure
that uses SCA drives).

Jeff

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>From seeger@cise.ufl.edu Wed May 13 23:09:18 1998
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 22:41:57 -0400
From: Charles Seeger <seeger@cise.ufl.edu>
To: Mike Frisch <mfrisch@saturn.tlug.org>
Subject: Re: Sun disk enclosures

| Where can I get info on the various disk enclosures that Sun has sold in
| the past few years? I am familiar with the Model 411 enclosure (open and
| closed face), but am interested in something that can hold 4 5.25" HH
| drives or 4 3.5" drives. What is a Model 611 and Model 811 that I've
| heard of and never seen?

Mike, the Model 811 is used for FH 8mm tape drives and the 4 DAT changer.
I've never seen a closed front version holding a 5.25" disk, but they were
sold with 1.3GB disks and 60 W power supplies. It is possible that the
disk version was the Model 611, but I don't know.

Sun did sell a dual 5.25" FH cabinet. At one point I must have seen
someone mention that this was a Model 511, as I have a note to that effect
marked with question marks. Anyway, these dual cabinets shipped with
669MB disks and/or QIC-150 or 2.3GB tape drives and a 120 W power supply.
I think one bay was closed and one open. I don't know how easy it would
be to mount 4 5.25" HH disks.

There is a Model 911 cabinet that holds 4 3.5" drives. These units
originally shipped with Seagate Hawk 1, Hawk 2 or Hawk 2LP 5400 RPM disks.
The power supplies for the two that I have are rated at 60 W and are
limited to 4A @12V and 4.5A @5V. I suspect that 3 Cheetah 7200 RPM disks
will exceed these limits, and 4 certainly will.

If you want one of the 911 cabinets, you might want to post to the
comp.sys.sun.wanted or misc.forsale.computers.workstation news groups.
I can tell you more about them, too. They may not be suitable for what
you want to do, and the mounting hardware is rather specialized.

Best Regards,
Chuck

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  Charles Seeger <seeger@cise.ufl.edu>

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>From bobr@solarsys.com Wed May 13 23:09:25 1998 Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:59:53 -0700 From: Bob Reitinger <bobr@solarsys.com> To: 'Mike Frisch' <mfrisch@saturn.tlug.org> Subject: RE: Sun disk enclosures

Mike -

Storage options can be of two types: "Sun Original" or third party. Since your mail discusses Sun original enclosures, I will stick to that.

Sun's 411 box is also referred to as a "Cigarbox". As you probably know, these enclosures take narrow SCSI-2 drives like the ST11200N (50-Pin data connector). One step up from the 411 is Sun's old "MultiPack". The old Multipack has four drive bays and takes the narrow drives also. (We are talking SPARC 10 vintage here). Sun then went to a different disk interface more in keeping with the SPARC 5's and SPARC 20's. This disk family is the MultiPack -6 (6 drive capacity) and MultiPack -12 (12 drive capacity). These Multipacks take wide-connect drives like the ST32430WC. Without messing around with the interfaces, these packs will only take the WC drives and not the older (and cheaper) narrow drives. **** One word of note - these enclosures require a specific mounting bracket corresponding to the enclosure. Sun also came out with the UniPack at around this time. UniPacks take one drive only and has the WC connection. (80-pin SCA2 Connector).

I hear that Sun has a new line of storage products beyond what I have described. You can probably get more information from their web-site. BTW - I am told that when you buy a new disk pack from Sun, the data cable and power cable are sold separately.

For your information, refurbished prices on these enclosures are as follows: MultiPack -6 $ 850.00 (Bare enclosure with cables) MultiPack -12 $ 1250.00 (Bare enclosure with cables) Unipack $ 575.00 (Enclosure with 2.1GB disk)

Equipment subject to prior sale.

Hope this helps.

Bob Reitinger Solar Systems and Peripherals "Refurbished Sun Spares and Systems" 8134 304th Avenue SE Preston, WA 98050 USA bobr@solar.wa.com www.solarsys.com 1-800-253-5764...117 Fax: 425-222-7388 Other Phone: 425-222-7588

-----Original Message----- From: Mike Frisch [SMTP:mfrisch@saturn.tlug.org] Sent: Friday, May 08, 1998 5:29 PM To: sun-managers@ra.mcs.anl.gov Subject: Sun disk enclosures

Where can I get info on the various disk enclosures that Sun has sold in the past few years? I am familiar with the Model 411 enclosure (open and closed face), but am interested in something that can hold 4 5.25" HH drives or 4 3.5" drives. What is a Model 611 and Model 811 that I've heard of and never seen?

Thanks.

Mike.

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