SUMMARY: Removing CDE - which packages can I take out?

From: Brent Parish (bparish@pfn.com)
Date: Wed Apr 15 1998 - 07:21:46 CDT


The Sun engineers decided to go ahead and lay it out, even though it is still not supported:

Here is the answer from SunSoft Developers:

Remove the following packages if they exist:

system SUNWdtab CDE DTBUILDER
system SUNWdtbas CDE application basic runtime environment
system SUNWdtdem CDE DEMOS
system SUNWdtdmn CDE daemons
system SUNWdtdst CDE Desktop Applications
system SUNWdtdte Solaris Desktop Login Environment
system SUNWdthe CDE HELP RUNTIME
system SUNWdthed CDE HELP DEVELOPER ENVIRONMENT
system SUNWdthev CDE HELP VOLUMES
system SUNWdthj HotJava Browser for Solaris
system SUNWdticn CDE icons
system SUNWdtim Solaris CDE Image Viewer
system SUNWdtinc CDE Includes
system SUNWdtlog System boot for Desktop Login
system SUNWdtma CDE man pages
system SUNWdtmad CDE developer man pages
system SUNWdtrme CDE Release Documentation
system SUNWdtwm CDE DESKTOP WINDOW MANAGER

You cannot remove:

system SUNWdtcor Solaris Desktop /usr/dt filesystem anchor

The SUNWdtcor package has the tooltalk binaries.

Thanks to everyone for reading and supporting the SunManagers list.
Special thanks to those who responded:

* * * Kevin Sheehan {Consulting Poster Child} [Kevin.Sheehan@uniq.com.au]
 - Suggests yanking out the scripts that start CDE/Openwin. He recommends vtwm. Attached is his comments and startup scripts.

 
* * * Sean Ward [sdward@uswest.com]
Hi Brent. The CDE packages are SUNWdt*, and ToolTalk is in SUNWtltkd and
SUNWtltkm.

* * * Tim Evans [tkevans@eplrx7.es.dupont.com]
Gosh, you feel strongly about this.

You could just go back to SunOS 4.1.x and use it forever.

That will get rid of CDE, and you won't have to be bothered by *anything*
new. :-)

As you've found, all the "old" OpenWin tools--calendar manager and such--are
integrated with ToolTalk, and are therefore no longer "old." Removing
tooltalk will break them all.

Well, get rid of all that CDE/openwin scripting crap is a good start. Here
is my .xinitrc and .xserverrc. I just say "xinit". Where I can, I use
vtwm - but twm works just fine on the road if need be. Heck, using
olwm or mwm instead would probably work just fine, but you won't catch me
doing either.

twm and vtwm take up less memory, are nice and configurable (too much so
some would say) and xterm works and takes less memory than shelltool/cmdtool.

In other words, X as the gods intended :-)

        l & h,
        kev

.xserverrc:

#! /bin/sh
case `uname -r` in
4*)xnews -ar1 180 -ar2 30 -nosunview -nobanner ;;
*) X -ar1 180 -ar2 30 -nobanner ;;
esac

.xinitrc:
#! /bin/sh

if [ -f $HOME/.Xdefaults ]; then
    xrdb $HOME/.Xdefaults # Load Users X11 resource database
fi
xmodmap -e 'add mod1 = Meta_L Meta_R' \
        -e 'add mod2 = F13 F16 F18 F19 F20' \
        -e 'add mod3 = Mode_switch' \
        -e 'add mod4 = Num_Lock'

xterm -fn 6x10 -C -sl 5000 -sb -iconic &
xterm -geom 80x48+0+0 &
xterm -geom 80x48-0-0 &

TZ=US/Pacific xclock -geom 64x64+64-0 &
TZ=Australia/NSW xclock -bg \#001040 -geom 64x64+0-0 &
TZ=GB-Eire xclock -geom 64x64+128-0 &

#exec twm -f $HOME/.twmrc
exec vtwm -f $HOME/.vtwmrc



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