SUMMARY: IP Address usage determination

From: Rawle Gibson (rawle@sybase.com)
Date: Thu Apr 11 1996 - 10:03:20 CDT


Yesterday I posted:

  Does anyone know how to determine if duplicate IP addresses are in use on
SPARC 5 wkstns running SUNOS 4.1.3? Is there a tool or command that can be
used to determine what machine(s) is using a given IP address? For instance,
on Intergraph Unix workstations (running CLIX--a proprietary flavour of unix)
you could issue the command:
 
 arp -t ip_address
 
   (where ip_address is the IP address that you wish to determine the users of)
 This command would list the Ethernet address of the machines that were using
 the given internet address. From there I could track down the owner of the
 machine that had "accidentally" used my internet address.
 
Unfortunately, the -t option does not exist with the arp command in SUNOS (or
most other flavours of Unix). Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly
appreciated.
 
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I received many responses and would like to thank all those who responded.
Your information was very helpfull.

Thanks to:
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ramu@duettech.com
bobk@telecode.com
rtrzaska@uk.mdis.com writes:
Robert.Gillespie@waii.com writes:
hessep@gb.swissbank.com writes:
sahirns@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu writes:
chris@Advent.COM writes:
john@oncology.uthscsa.edu writes:
Michael.Neef@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.DE writes:
astorms@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu writes:
Jimi.Xenidis@cimtegration.com writes:
Ian_MacPhedran@engr.USask.CA writes:
and@morgan.com writes:
manderso@mitretek.org writes:

Summary:

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 arp -a will list out ip address and ethernet address.
 Before using this you contact all hosts once using the command rup.

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 get a program called 'getethers'
 It can be found at www.jumbo.com or ftp.oak.oakland.edu

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 did you try 'arp -a' which
 will list out the current table of
 ip address to mac addresses,
 
 loop through pinging a host then 'arp -a | grep ahost'
 might work.

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 Looking at this recently, I saw a reference to a suite of
 progs by Dave Curry at http://harbor.ecn.purdue.edu/~davy/

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 Disconnect your workstation from the net and then:
 
   ping -s YourIPAddress
 
 This should yield the Ethernet address of the machine(s).

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 You could always ping the ip address first and then arp it. Of
 course, this would only work if the other machine is on the same
 network as you are.
 example:
 % ping 155.246.89.81
 155.246.89.81 is alive
 % arp 155.246.89.81
 155.246.89.81 (155.246.89.81) at 0:80:7c:4:30:96

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 Just use 'arp ip_address' in SunOS 4.x.

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  The first thing to do is ping the ip address. If you get two
  or more responses for every one sent (ie magnification), then
  you have hosts sharing addresses.
 
  Next, with etherfind you can filter for the source host being
  your magnified ip address and choose only ICMP packets and set
  it for extremely verbose output. This way you can determine
  the physical addresses of the hosts with the same ip address.

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 there is a very useful public domain tool called arpwatch which detects
 changes in ethernet addresses and I think in IP addresses also:
 
 ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/arpwatch.tar.Z
 
 arpwatch uses libpcap:
 
 ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/libpcap.tar.Z
 
 As far I remember, the usage of duplicate IP addresses and the corresponding
 ethernet addresses of active hosts are usually listed in /var/adm/messages .

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 You can try this:
 
 In one window execute snoop (tcpdump for SUNOS) and pipe it into some
 sort of grep call (or no grep at all if you wish).
 Next, in another window ping the IP address. You can watch snoop give
 you details about who replys to the ARP-request when you ping. There
 should be an ethernet address listed. You may have to set a flag in
 snoop to list ether addresses. Im sure its in the man page.
 
 (note: sometimes if the IP and ether is already in your arp cache no
 arp-request will be performed. arp -a lists the arp cache. There is a
 flag to clear the cache.)
 
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 arp displayes the ethernet addresses chached in the kernel so to discover
 an ethernet address you should first ping it.

 
        $ ping <ip_address>
        <ip_address> is alive
        $ arp <ip_address>
        <hostname> (<ip_address>) at <ethernet address>
 
 if you suspect two machines using the same IP address then arp may show two
 MAC addresses for the same ip or to be really sure try this
 
        $ ping -sv <ip_address>
 
 If you are correct you will see twice as many ping responses, then try:
 
        $ arp -a
 
 Which will dump the entire arp cache table which will show the MAC address of
 the machines. Look for repeating IP addresses.

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 Just use "arp ip_addr" - if it returns without an ethernet address, ping
 that address, then arp it. Remember to turn off your Sun before doing
 this, or it may be that you'll get it instead of the rogue. If you have
 tcpdump, you could try watching for packets from that IP address and
 without the known ethernet address.
 
 Check with your network administrator - your bridges/routers may be
 capturing this information already.

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 Try this:
 
 1. ping the host or IP address that you are interested in.
 2. arp -a | grep host_or_IP_address
 
 You will see the Ethernet address of the machine that responded to the
 ping. You will not see every host that is using that address, but only
 the one that responded. If this is the Ethernet address that you are
 looking for, then you're done with arp. If not, you will have to keep
 trying until the _wrong_ machine responds again. Before trying again,
 you should delete the arp table entry for that host (arp -d hostname).
 If you want to prevent the correct host from responding, just shut it
 down during the testing.

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 on sunos you'll get a console message (also logged in /var/adm/messages) if
 someone's using your ip address. It will be of the form:
 cwadm1 /usr/local/track/STD/Slists 68$ strings /vmunix | grep -i duplicate
 duplicate IP address!! sent from ethernet address

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Rawle

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Rawle Gibson
Release & Tools Engineer
Sybase Canada Ltd.
Email: rawle.gibson@sybase.com
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