SUMMARY: PCNFSpro v1.1 - WFW 3.11; Can this work both ways?

From: Douglas Lanz (dplanz@wimsey.com)
Date: Wed Jun 28 1995 - 08:31:30 CDT


Hello Managers;

Many thanks to all who replied. The short answer is that PCNFSpro provides only client services
and does not provide server NFS support. It seemed strange to me that a product named
ˇˇN*sā-
Ē does not fully support NFS.

I was advised of two commercial packages and two freeware packages sos and SAMBA, which
uses the native WFW 3.11ís networking. For the commercial packages, it seems that SolarNet
PC-Admin provides NFS client services, but it does not come with PCNFSpro; and Legato's
Networker backup solution was also another possibility, if backup was the only concern.

As Iím looking for a solution that I can install for my remote industrial customers, who will be
looking for simplified software support (as they have limited administrator abilities), Iíll probably
have to go with SolarNet PC-Admin - and leave in place a support contract with Sun. If it were
for my use only, I would have picked SAMBA, as I saw the SAMBA questions and answers that
were posted a few weeks ago.

As the responses were short, I include the unedited replys below.

Thanks again, the postings Iíve seen here, since I joined a few months ago, have helped me with
a number of issues. Maybe someday Iíll be able to contribute back.

Doug.

Original posted query:
>
> Hello Managers;
>
> I've just installed PCNFSpro v1.1 on my WFW 3.11 machines, I can now use the SPARC 10's
> exported resources (file systems, CD-ROM, etc) through the WFW's File Mgr. The SPARC 10
is
> running Solaris 2.4 with only those patches supplied on the Solaris 2.4 CD-ROM installed.
>
> What I'd like to do is get the SPARC 10 to mount the PC's resources and have them appear in
> the Solaris File Manager, so I can do tape backups of the PC's disks, as well as share the PC
> network disks to the SPARC. I've set up our SPARC classic to work this way with the SPARC
10,
> but I can't find out how to get PCNFSpro to do this for the PC's.
>
> The addresses are correct, as ping from the SPARC 10 shows each PC is alive, but dfshares
> says RPC: Rpcbind failure - Timed out.
>
> If any person has managed to get this to work, I'd very much appreciate an email, and I'd
gladly
> post a SUMMARY.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Doug.
>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:30:48 +1000 (EST)
From: Tony Jago <tony@fit.qut.edu.au>
Reply-To: Tony.Jago@fit.qut.edu.au
To: Douglas Lanz <dplanz@wimsey.com>
Subject: Re: PCNFSpro v1.1 - WFW 3.11; Can this work both ways?

 I believe you need the Samba package (freeware). It allows unix
 machines to talk to the WFW type machines and vise versa. I don't use it
 here but I have had a quick look at it and have heard good reports.

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============================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:02:47 -0400 From: David.Miner@East.Sun.COM (Dave Miner - SolarNet Engineering) To: dplanz@wimsey.com Subject: Re: PCNFSpro v1.1 - WFW 3.11; Can this work both ways?

PC-NFSpro does not currently include NFS server support, which is what you'd need to accomplish this. The best thing you could do is to enable the ftp daemon on the PC and use ftp from the Sun to retrieve the files you wish to backup, but that's probably not a great solution. You might also investigate a solution like Legato's Networker backup solution; we include the client software with SolarNet PC-Admin, but I don't think it comes with PC-NFSpro.

Dave

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============================================================= From: Dave Fetrow <fetrow@orac.biostat.washington.edu> To: Douglas Lanz <dplanz@wimsey.com> Subject: Re: PCNFSpro v1.1 - WFW 3.11; Can this work both ways?

An alternative is to go with SAMBA; this has the considerable advantage of using the native MS-Windows networking (no big deal for the Unix box) rather than making some poor PC speak NFS.

Also; I don't believe PCNFSpro HAS an NFS server built in. It has a client of course.

For more info:

http://www.biostat.washington.edu/pc/pcnfs.html

-Dave Fetrow fetrow@biostat.washington.edu http://www.biostat.washington.edu/biostat/staff/fetrow.html

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 14:20:52 CDT From: fhb@kestnbaum.com (Fred Berns) To: dplanz@wimsey.com Subject: Re: PCNFSpro v1.1 - WFW 3.11; Can this work both ways?

I don't see how this can work since PCNFS alone does not provide the multitasking environment to support this.

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=========================================================== From: Kevin.Sheehan@uniq.com.au (Kevin Sheehan {Consulting Poster Child}) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 07:49:55 EST To: dplanz@wimsey.com (Douglas Lanz) Subject: Re: PCNFSpro v1.1 - WFW 3.11; Can this work both ways?

The problem is that the PC doesn't act as an NFS server - I'm not sure that PCNFSpro ever does. Heck - we can't even get the silly NT box we have to use to do it right yet...

l & h, kev ============================================================ From: pyb@silogic.fr (Pierre-Yves Bonnetain) Subject: Re: PCNFSpro v1.1 - WFW 3.11; Can this work both ways? To: dplanz@wimsey.com Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:01:27 +0100 (BST)

I'm afraid the PC-NFS is only the client side of NFS. You can mount, but you cannot export filesystems.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 23:52:50 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: dplanz@wimsey.com Subject: Re: PCNFSpro v1.1 - WFW 3.11; Can this work both ways?

> I've just installed PCNFSpro v1.1 on my WFW 3.11 machines, I can now > use the SPARC 10's exported resources (file systems, CD-ROM, etc) > through the WFW's File Mgr.

> What I'd like to do is get the SPARC 10 to mount the PC's resources > and have them appear in the Solaris File Manager, so I can do tape > backups of the PC's disks, as well as share the PC network disks to > the SPARC ... but I can't find out how to get PCNFSpro to do this > for the PC's.

The original PC-NFS had only client capability, not server, and I suspect that PCNFSpro may be the same way. I am aware of three possible solutions:

* A program called soss (ask archie), which runs under DOS and makes the PC into a dedicated NFS server. This might be OK for backups, when you'd probably just as soon not have anything else running on the PC anyway.

* Chameleon, from NetManage, which is a Windows DLL file. I am not totally sure that it provides NFS server functionality, but I seem to remember that it does.

* Windows 95 has peer-to-peer networking built in. I presume this

==================================================== Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 11:05:49 GMT From: nobroin@esoc.esa.de (Niall O Broin x 3619) To: dplanz@wimsey.com Subject: Re: PCNFSpro v1.1 - WFW 3.11; Can this work both ways?

*-------*-------*-------*-------*-------*-------*-------*-------*-------*75 Douglas, PC-NFS doesn't have an NFS server component, so you're out of luck there. There are some other Windows TCP products which do have, but their names escape me I'm afraid. There is a public domain product available called, AFAIR, SOS (for Son of Sam - don't ask me !) which makes a PC into an NFS server - maybe that might be of some use to you.

Kindest regards,

Niall

================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 95 17:11:50 WST From: sunm@erm.oz.au (Brett Newton-Palmer(Sun Admin)) To: dplanz@wimsey.com Subject: Re: PCNFSpro v1.1 - WFW 3.11; Can this work both ways?

You need to get the public domain program "SAMBA" running on your Solaris machine - it let's you see WFW resources .... I'm not sure if you can do this with PC-NFS ?

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