SUMMARY:Apple-laser

From: Mr Rene Occelli (rene@iusti.univ-mrs.fr)
Date: Tue Jun 27 1995 - 09:52:32 CDT


Hi,

I resume the question:

Is it possible to print on an Apple laserwriter with an ethernet port ?

The reponse is NOT, because it is impossible to assign an IP address to it
(There is No TCP/IP protocol on it)

Thanks to :

mike@access.access.com (Mike Avina)
jeff@arion.com (Jeff Mayzurk)
oberto@banach.nl.nuwc.navy.mil (Roberto Dominijanni)
dburwell@telecom.com (David Burwell)
mrs@cadem.mc.xerox.com (Mike Salehi)
jmarble@zambezi.cambric.com (Jeff Marble)
Pat Cain <pjc@SSDS.com>
thadm@syst.oregonian.com (Thad Macmillan)
rdga3!sdr (S. D. Raffensberger 500622500 (RD)
blymn@awadi.com.AU (Brett Lymn)
mp@zephyr.matra-espace.fr (Manuel PINTOR (MMS-Toulouse, Operations))

So, as said by Thad Macmillan, I'll have to wait till my Sparcprinter
is back up.

Rene
Below some interesting remarks...
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jeff@arion.com (Jeff Mayzurk)

Well, you obviously need to know the printer's IP address or its domain
name. This is probably a good question for your Network Admin, *but*, most
printers print a startup page when they're first turned on, and the
Laserwriter startup page prints the printer's IP address (for printers
equipped with TCP/IP interfaces, that is). Try turning the printer off and
back on, and you may get your answer.

Otherwise, find out who's responsible for the printer and ask them.
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dburwell@telecom.com (David Burwell)

  I don't think what you are trying to do will work.

  The "Ethernet" port on the side of the Laserwritter is really
a "EtherTALK" port. Ethertalk is the Appletalk network protocol
running on a 10BaseT (Ethernet) wire. But, I don't think there
is a way to assign an IP address internally to the printer, and
that is what is required for the printer to recognize IP packets
that are ment for it. Just setting an IP address in your host file
is meaningless unless the host device understands IP addresses.
Every device that is supposed to hang on an Ethernet wire will
have an Ethernet address, but unless they support IP addressing,
it won't work.

  You could set up the Sun with a Ethertalk to IP "converter".
A commerical product is from Helios called Ethershare. Another
"freeware" item is a product call MAC, but that requires
a lot of work.

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jmarble@zambezi.cambric.com (Jeff Marble)

Use:
arp -s laserwriter 08:00:07:D4:E8:5C

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 Pat Cain <pjc@SSDS.com>

If it's got IP enabled on the interface, then it's basically an Emulex
Printer server with an Apple OEM on it.

It's a truly miserable implementation, but you CAN telnet to it (once the
IP address is configured - which I don't know how to do).

Further, to print to it, you need the utility "apprint", which I've
obtained for our LW in Dayton, OH (but did NOT initially configure).

I've placed it on our public ftp server - ftp.ssds.com - in
pub/upload/lw810.tar.gz
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