SUMMARY: format.dat for Quantum prodrive 1800S on SS10

From: Penh Vatsolaki (vatsola@ics.forth.gr)
Date: Wed Jul 06 1994 - 17:36:54 CDT


Many thanks to all the people that have responded to my request:
        
        Jonathan Loh <jloh@futon.SFSU.EDU>
        john@oncology.uthscsa.edu (John Justin Hough)
        blymn@awadi.com.AU (Brett Lymn)
        Eckhard.Rueggeberg@ts.go.dlr.de (Eckhard Rueggeberg)
        ulla@dmi.min.dk (Ulla Fischer)
        grevemes@VTC.TACOM.Army.Mil (Steven Grevemeyer)

The original posting was:
> Hello!
> We are trying to install a Quantum Prodrive 1800S fast SCSI-2 1.8GB disk drive
> on a Sun SS10-30 running SunOS 4.1.3 .
> The disk came without any label, and we do not have,
> neither found in previous news postings, nor written by ourselves
> the correct format.dat entry for this disk.
> Does anybody know the format.dat entry for this disk model?
>
> Thank you very much! I will summarize the answers.
>
> P. Vatsolaki
> Foundation of Research and Technology - Hellas
> Institute of Computer Science

The format.dat that that worked for us was based on the suggestions
of John Justin Hough (john@oncology.uthscsa.edu ):

disk_type = "Quantum ProDrive 1800S" \
        : ctlr = SCSI : fmt_time = 4 \
        : ncyl = 2536 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2536 : nhead = 14 : nsect = 99 \
        : rpm = 5400 : bpt = 50688

All the replies that I have received so far are listed below:
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>From jloh@futon.sfsu.edu Wed Jul 6 01:29:39 1994
Subject: Re: Request for format.dat entry for Quantum prodrive 1800S
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 94 15:32:24 PDT

pay close attention to 5.1 of the faq

Archive-name: sun-managers-faq

Sun-Managers' Frequently Asked Questions
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          5.1) What is the format.dat entry for drive X?

  The answer can vary according to what OS you are running, the
  architecture of your machine or the type of SCSI/SMD/IPI controller you
  are using. Opinions also vary on how to format once you have all the
  information you need. If you are buying a Sun supported drive, you will
  likely find an entry for it in "/etc/format.dat". On third party
  drives, you should inquire with the vendor you bought it from. If you
  are on your own, contact the manufacturer, or try to get hold of the
  manufacturer's OEM manual for your drive model. You might be able to
  derive enough information from the manual to make up your own entry.
  Some drive manufacturers run "bulletin boards" with drive information on
  them:

    Fujitsu America BBS 408 944 9899
    Seagate BBS USA/Can 408 438 8771
    Seagate BBS England 44 62 847 8011
    Seagate BBS Germany 49 89 140 9331
    Seagate BBS Singapore 65 292 6973
    Seagate BBS Australia 61 2 756 2359
    Maxtor BBS 303 678 2222
    Micropolis BBS 818 709 3310
    Quantum BBS 408 894 3214
    Conner BBS 408 456 4415 / 408 456 3200

  It is also possible to contact drive manufacturers by telephone.
  Some relevant numbers:

    Fujitsu USA 800-626-4686
                    408-432-1300
    Fujitsu FAXLINE 408-428-0456
    Fujitsu Canada 416-602-5454
                    800-263-7091
    Hitachi USA 800-HIT-ACHI
    Hitachi HITFAX 800-HIT-FAX1
    Maxtor USA 800-2MA-XTOR
    Micropolis USA 800-395-3748
    Seagate USA 800-468-3472
                    408-438-8222
    Seagate FAX 408-438-8137
    Seagate FAXBACK 408-438-2620
    Quantum USA 800-826-8022
    Conner USA 408-456-3247
                    408-456-4500
    Conner Tech 800-426-6637
    Conner FAXBACK 408-456-4903

  A format.dat file containing entries submitted by various people is
  available for anonymous ftp from ra.mcs.anl.gov in
  /sun-managers/format.dat. It is currently maintained by John DiMarco
  (jdd@cdf.toronto.edu). New entries (especially vendor-suggested ones)
  are welcome; mail them to sun-managers-format@eecs.nwu.edu

  Note: do not post a format.dat request to the list or to the
  comp.sys.sun.admin newsgroup unless you have exhausted all these avenues.

  If you have a SCSI disk on a sun4c, sun4m, sun4e, or sun4d running
  SunOS 4.1.1 or later, grab John DiMarco's scsiinfo program from
  ftp.cdf.toronto.edu:/pub/scsiinfo. It will query the disk directly,
  and generate an appropriate format.dat entry

  Tips for rolling your own format.dat:

  - For SCSI disks, any combination of cylinders, heads, and sectors that
  does not add up to more than the rated formatted capacity of the drive
  will normally work. A grossly different geometry may result in some
  slight performance degradation, but it should still work. The SCSI protocol
  hides most of the drive details from the host, and hence the host need not
  know much about the drive to format or use it.

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>From john@oncology.uthscsa.edu Wed Jul 6 02:19:39 1994
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 17:59:16 +0600
From: john@oncology.uthscsa.edu (John Justin Hough)
Subject: Re: Request for format.dat entry for Quantum prodrive 1800S

Penh,

  Below are what I use, (more than one name because each time I have
  added one I used a new name). I'd like to note that for some reason
  I actually had to define the type because the speed was zero and
  newfs wouldn't layout a partition until I actually set it.

  Hope these help.

john

disk_type = "QUANTUM-PD1800S-3162" \
    : ctlr = SCSI : fmt_time = 4 \
    : ncyl = 2536 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2536 : nhead = 14 : nsect = 99 \
    : rpm = 5400
 
disk_type = "QUANTUM PD1800S" \
    : ctlr = SCSI : fmt_time = 4 \
    : ncyl = 2536 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2536 : nhead = 14 : nsect = 99 \
    : rpm = 5400
 
disk_type = "Quantum PD1800S" \
    : ctlr = SCSI : fmt_time = 4 \
    : ncyl = 2536 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2536 : nhead = 14 : nsect = 99 \
    : rpm = 5400
 
disk_type = "Quantum ProDrive 1800S" \
    : ctlr = SCSI : fmt_time = 4 \
    : ncyl = 2536 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2536 : nhead = 14 : nsect = 99 \
    : rpm = 5400

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>From blymn@awadi.com.AU Wed Jul 6 04:50:16 1994
Subject: Re: Request for format.dat entry for Quantum prodrive 1800S
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 11:16:36 +0930 (CST)

I suggest you get a copy of the program scsiinfo. This will
automatically build a format.dat entry for the drive after querying
the drive geometry. Much easier than trawling for an entry!

-- 
Brett Lymn, Computer Systems Administrator, AWA Defence Industries

============================================================================ >From Eckhard.Rueggeberg@ts.go.dlr.de Wed Jul 6 09:14:53 1994 Subject: Re: Request for format.dat entry for Quantum prodrive 1800S

Put any label on it e.g. all partitions from 0 to 0, and let scsiping ask the disk itself, nobody should know better. Ask archie where to get scsiping.

Eckhard Rüggeberg eckhard@ts.go.dlr.de

============================================================================ >From ulla@dmi.min.dk Wed Jul 6 10:12:00 1994 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:14:53 GMT From: ulla@dmi.min.dk (Ulla Fischer) Subject: Re: Request for format.dat entry for Quantum prodrive 1800S

Dear Votsolaki

Install the scsiinfo program. It can among many things generate a format.dat for you. Just label the disk with some label belonging to a disk smaller than 1.8 GB.

Scsiinfo is on:

Host ugle.unit.no (129.241.1.97) Last updated 09:45 22 Jun 1994

Location: /pub/unix/sys FILE -rw-r--r-- 16361 bytes 15:08 25 Jan 1994 scsiinfo-3.1.shar.gz

Host ftp.cs.uni-sb.de (134.96.7.254) Last updated 01:39 28 Jun 1994

Location: /pub/systems/sun FILE -rw-r--r-- 16325 bytes 21:01 15 Jan 1994 scsiinfo-3.1.shar.gz

Host flop.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (131.159.8.35) Last updated 02:30 28 Jun 1994

Location: /pub/outgoing FILE -rw-r--r-- 22730 bytes 03:00 16 Dec 1993 scsiinfo-1.0.shar FILE -rw-r--r-- 12970 bytes 03:00 16 Dec 1993 scsiinfo-2.2.shar.gz

Host ftp.cs.uni-sb.de (134.96.7.254) Last updated 01:39 28 Jun 1994

Location: /pub/systems/sun FILE -rw-r--r-- 16534 bytes 23:16 4 Jun 1994 scsiinfo-3.2.shar.gz

Yours,

Ulla Fischer Danmarks Meteorologiske Institut Email: ulla@dmi.min.dk Edb-afdelingen Phone: + 45 39 15 75 00 Lyngbyvej 100 Phone: + 45 39 15 75 54 2100 Koebenhavn 0 Fax: + 45 39 15 75 98 Denmark ============================================================================

>From grevemes@VTC.TACOM.Army.Mil Wed Jul 6 16:00:35 1994 From: grevemes@VTC.TACOM.Army.Mil (Steven Grevemeyer) Subject: Re: Request for format.dat entry for Quantum prodrive 1800S Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 08:52:07 -0400 (EDT)

Found this:

# Quantum BBS 408 434 1664 # Quantum USA 408-894-4000



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