Thanks so much to all listed below for their precious info's.
We don't have Windows NT at the moment but we are planning to test it soon.
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> Dear Managers,
>
> If you are using Windows NT, would you please let me know how is the
> networking performance between Sun and Windows NT. Can we do nfs, rlogin,
> telnet between the two? Any input is very appreciated.
>
> Aline...
>
> PS. Is there any Windows NT mail list out there?
>
>From Bob Izenberg - bobi@vswr.sps.mot.com
We found a PD nfs out there that was unreliable. We've given up on that, so
we use ftp to transfer files from the real world to the wind-up world. :-)
I'm waiting for either Sun's PC-NFS for NT (in beta, but we don't have it yet)
or ftp Software's PC-FTP (same situation as PC-NFS.)
>From Steffen Reithermann - reitherm@informatik.uni-kl.de
at least the "March 1993 beta version of Windows NT" includes
only a telnet client and a ftp client program.
There are no telnet/ftp servers bundled currently.
NFS client and server programs will be a commercial package,
as far as I know.
>From Jon Mellott - jon@alpha.ee.ufl.edu
Networking performance is fine -- but there is no NFS client software for NT.
I found a PD NFS server for NT (Soss NT) and built it. It seems to work
OK, but there doesn't seem to be a way to get the server software to
deal with permissions.
NT does come with telnet (client) and ftp (client and server). These seem
to work fine.
The primary performance bottleneck for networking in NT on PC based hardware
is the performance of the card. Some PC interface cards are really slow.
>From Jose A. Fernandez - jaf@inference.com
Using NT "straight from Microsoft's CD-ROM," I can do "ftp," "rcp,"
"rsh", and "telnet" from an NT machine to a Sun. There is no NFS
support. The NT machine can act as an FTP server if you
install/configure the FTP server software.
>From M. Seeger see@uebemc.siemens.de
it might not be exactly what you want, because i didn't use NT with Suns, but
with Dec-ultrix, but nethertheless it could be helpfull.
I played with NT for about a week in June, at Dec (they have a cooperation with
microsoft and had we actual versions of NT) so my knowledge is of this time.
You can do telnet and rlogins to unix-machines, or any other machine
knowing telnet. Problem is, you can't do telnet from a unix-machine to the NT-ma
chine.
Where is now server-daemon.
NFS will be available by third party-vendors (tcp-based).
If you have the so called advanced server (in june only a beta release was avail
able),
you are abel to share files between NT-machines.
Performance of NT is not so good, at least on a 486-DX 66 on an alpha-PC perform
ance
is similar to what you get running a normal 486 with dos and windows :-)
>From Bill Shorter - bill@aloft.att.com
Windows NT offers TCP/IP services to the person logged
in at the PC's Console ONLY. The console user can telnet
out to remote hosts, as well as ftp out. Remote Sun
users cannot telnet/ftp into the NT PC. Also, there
is no NFS on generic NT.
It is left to third parties, who make lotsa dollars
doing this, to write and market bi-directional TCP/IP
based software, as well as NFS.
On the other hand, Solars 2.1 for x86 running on the
same PC (in my case a 66MHz 486) offers all SunOS
capabilities. AND it performs about as well as my
SPARCstation-2 running Solaris 2.1
>From Paul Begley - peb@scdipc0.ueci.com
Aline H. Runde -
> If you are using Windows NT, would you please let me know how is the
> networking performance between Sun and Windows NT. Can we do nfs, rlogin,
> telnet between the two? Any input is very appreciated.
I have just returned from a field assignment in Ireland and am getting up
to speed with NT (read: installing it this week).
> PS. Is there any Windows NT mail list out there?
I am not aware of one, although there is a windows/NT news group. If
you find an NT mailing list, let me know. We don't have News running,
but I am trying to justify the disk space (again - it 'died' in my
absence) to the powers that be at our site.
I have the following index from ftp.cica.indiana.edu:
**
** Index of Windows NT Files in ~ftp/pub/pc/win3/nt
** at ftp.cica.indiana.edu [129.79.20.17]
**
** Last Updated: Thu Aug 19 16:46:26 1993
**
2000nt39.zip 930406 Always IN2000 SCSI Driver for NT
anagnt.zip 921215 Anagram finder for Windows NT
atib2.zip 930420 ATI Drivers (3/26/93) for Windows NT
appcmp.zip 930301 Application Compatibility Guide for Chicago
bg.c 930219 Util to put an NT program in the background
bog_nt.zip 930317 Boggle Game for MS Windows NT, October Beta or later
caplib.zip 921215 Microsoft Windows NT Call Profiler
ccd150.zip 930714 NT App to Quickly Change Subdirectories
concol10.zip 930205 Set Color of your Console in Windows NT
cordine.zip 930419 Windows NT freeware button accordion
cxxp4w.zip 930315 C++ Programming for Windows Oct NT
ddklic.zip 930301 License agreement for the DDK
dtc3290.zip 930224 Jan93 drivers for the DTC3290 controller for NT
dyndlg.zip 921215 Sample to show how to create Win32 dialogs
ee16nt.exe 921220 Intel EtherExpress(tm) 16 family - Beta NDIS drvr
elink3nt.zip 930716 NT driver for 3Com Etherlink III (3C509) adapter
embh_n.zip 930301 Embedded animated Help-Objects for *.HLP files
fioben.zip 930301 File I/O Benchmark
flag2.zip 921215 Flagger - A batch porting tool for Oct 92 Beta
fm_ext.zip 921215 DLL for File Manager Extensions for Oct 92 Beta
frac_nt.zip 930317 FracView for MS Windows NT, October Beta or later
gnurcs.zip 921215 Revision Control System for NT
grep16.zip 930301 Gnu grep and egrep 1.6 (src+MIPS-EXE)
hang_nt.zip 930317 Hangman for MS Windows NT, October Beta or later
help.zip 921215 Convert OS/2 IPF files to Windows RTF
holep.zip 921215 HOLEPORT porting tool
ibison.zip 930219 NT GNU Bison for i386+ processors (Feb 1993 build)
ibmsyn.zip 930301 IBM Multiprotocol Adapter Driver SRC
icompres.zip 930219 NT GNU Compress for i386+ processors (Feb 1993 build)
idiff.zip 930219 NT GNU Diff for i386+ processors (Feb 1993 build)
iflex.zip 930219 NT GNU Flex for i386+ processors (Feb 1993 build)
iftpd.exe 930503 03May93 Ver FTP-Daemon for NT (runs as a service) 80x86
igrep.zip 930219 NT GNU grep/egrep for i386+ processors (Feb 1993 build)
ised.zip 930219 NT GNU Sed for i386+ processors (Feb 1993 build)
iunzip.exe 930219 NT Unzip for i386+ processors (Feb 1993 build)
izip.zip 930219 NT Zip for i386+ processors (Feb 1993 build)
kbuser.txt 930301 How to use the MS Knowledge Base on CI$
klotz4nt.zip 921210 KLOTZ version 3.01 for the NT operating system
kmglos.zip 930205 Replacement Tables of Contents/Glossary for NT Beta
lmousent.exe 930224 Logitech Windows NT mouse drivers
lpr10.zip 921215 lpr, lpq, lprm - TCP/IP printing to remote hosts
ls_nt10.zip 930809 ls - unix DIR command for windows NT
m93nt1.zip 930321 ATI MACH8/MACH32 MARCH 93 BETA Windows NT Drivers
mar93hcl.zip 930319 Hardware compatibilty list for March beta of Windows NT
makfon.zip 921215 Oct 92 Beta version of the source to make a FON file
mapmem.zip 930301 Device Driver to map physical Memory
mbison.zip 930219 NT GNU Bison for MIPS R4000 processors (Feb 1993 build)
mdiff.zip 930219 NT GNU Diff for MIPS R4000 processors (Feb 1993 build)
mdipad.zip 930301 MDI Template
medit1.zip 930205 Programmer's Editor w/multiple windows for NT
melt.zip 921215 Melt Screen Saver module for NT Oct 92 beta
mewn1m.zip 920402 MicroEMACS for Mar93 NT exe
mews1m.zip 920402 MicroEMACS for Mar93 NT src changes for 1.1a
mftpd.exe 930503 03May93 Ver FTP-Daemon for NT (runs as a service) R4000
mypal.zip 930301 Updated Example from the October SDK
mflex.zip 930219 NT GNU Flex for MIPS R4000 processors (Feb 1993 build)
mgawk.zip 930219 NT GNU Awk for MIPS R4000 processors (Feb 1993 build)
mgrep.zip 930219 NT GNU Grep/Egrep for MIPS R4000 (Feb 1993 build)
mipbez2.zip 921215 October beta WINBEZ demo program for MIPS platform
mjb_nt.zip 930317 MIDI JukeBox for MS Windows NT, October Beta or later
mrcs.zip 930219 NT GNU RCS for MIPS R4000 processors (Feb 1993 build)
mpegnt.zip 930315 Port of Berkeley Public Domain MPEG player for NT
mpegw32.zip 930401 MPEG player for WIN32 and WIN32s
msed.zip 930219 NT GNU Sed for MIPS R4000 processors (Feb 1993 build)
msg1.zip 921215 Messages from Week 1 of the MSWIN32 forum on CompuServe
msg2.zip 921215 Messages from Week 2 of the MSWIN32 forum on CompuServe
msg3.zip 921215 Messages from Week 3 of the MSWIN32 forum on CompuServe
munzip.exe 930219 NT Unzip for MIPS R4000 processors (Feb 1993 build)
mzip.zip 930219 NT Zip/Unzip for MIPS R4000 processors (Feb 1993 build)
mxxnt8.zip 930218 ATI's NT drivers for 8514/Ultra, Ultra+, Ultra Pro,etc
newmk.zip 921215 Build environment. New make file for shrmem
notent2.zip 921215 A Windows New Technology Text Editor for Huge Files
nt-130.exe 921215 Trantor NT drivers for T130 SCSI adapter,etc.
nt_13.lzh 921215 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 news (Oct 3-10)
nt_14.lzh 921215 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 news (Oct 10-17)
nt_intro.zip 930319 Intro to NT (DOS program)
ntcgrp.zip 921215 Customize DLL for controlling NT Dialog Editor
ntctst.zip 920828 Microsoft NT Shareware Contest Rules/Announcements
ntdrag.zip 921215 Drag 'n' Drop and EXETYPE Utilities for NT
ntls.zip 930306 ls - Windows NT directory listing utility
ntsh01.zip 930301 Korn-like-Shell for NT
ntspin.zip 921215 Spin control for NT Dialog Editor
ntutil.zip 921215 Clysmic Drag 'N' Drop Utilities for NT
ntxsta.zip 921215 XStatic control for NT Dialog Editor
nwnt.zip 930218 Newer NetWare Client for NT: Pre-release
perf.mak 921215 Nmake macros for building Windows 32-Bit apps
pshdr.zip 930205 Replacement psheader.ps missing from Oct Beta
psview.zip 921215 Win32 PostScript Viewer
pterm03b.zip 930712 Multithreaded Terminal Emulator w/Zmodem
pzl8_nt.zip 930317 Puzzle-8 for MS Windows NT, October Beta or later
qvtwnt38.zip 930818 Beta release of WinQVT/Net for Windows NT
queue.zip 921215 DosQueue functions of OS/2 ported to NT
rcalc_nt.zip 930317 Talking RPN Calculator for MS Windows NT, Oct Beta
regmps.zip 921215 Utility (for MIPS platform) to Capture Sysinfo
regx86.zip 921215 Utility (for x86 platform) to Capture Sysinfo
resc.zip 921215 Updates to the tools in ResConv and Annotate
resdll.zip 921215 Oct Beta Ver of samples\resdll files
resfmt.zip 921215 Win32 Binary resource formats
servic.zip 930301 Simple Service Example for NT
setsbvol.zip 930317 Sets the volume of your sound card (w/src) for NT
sossnt.zip 930306 A port of the SOSS NFS server program to NT
spice41.zip 930218 Nutmeg32 & Spice32 for NT/Win3.1/Win32s subsystem
spice42.zip 930218 Nutmeg32 & Spice32 for NT/Win3.1/Win32s subsystem
spice43.zip 930218 Nutmeg32 & Spice32 for NT/Win3.1/Win32s subsystem
spooks.zip 921215 Spooks Screen Saver module for NT Oct Beta
sw_nt.zip 930317 Stopwatch for MS Windows NT, October Beta or later
tclk_nt.zip 930317 Talking Clock for MS Windows NT, October Beta or later
tmtn14.zip 930301 Time and Money-Tracker
tools.zip 930313 Available NT Development Tools in Excel and Word Format
tr32-2.zip 921215 Trash Manager for NT Help Contents
tty32.zip 921215 TTY Sample allowing TELNET connections
uniput.zip 921215 Input Unicode characters with the mouse
uupc11xd.zip 930727 UUPC/extended 1.11x documents and sample files
uupc11ya.zip 930727 UUPC/extended 1.11y Win/NT executables (1 of 3)
uupc11yb.zip 930727 UUPC/extended 1.11y Win/NT executables (2 of 3)
uupc11yc.zip 930727 UUPC/extended 1.11y Win/NT executables (3 of 3)
uupc11ys.zip 930727 UUPC/extended 1.11y Win/NT source (1 of 2)
uupc11yt.zip 930727 UUPC/extended 1.11y Win/NT source (2 of 2)
view11.zip 921215 PostScript TEXT viewer - NT version: Beta October 92
vmail103.zip 930727 VanceMail: SMTP Send mail agent for NT
w31_32.zip 921215 While You Were Out Msg System for NT
wavout.exe 930205 Wave Output Controller for NT
week15.zip 921215 Messages from Week 15 of the WINNT forum on CompuServe
week16.zip 921215 Messages from Week 16 of the WINNT forum on CompuServe
week17.zip 921215 Messages from Week 17 of the WINNT forum on CompuServe
winbez2.zip 921215 October beta of WINBEZ demo program for x86 platform
winf01.zip 930313 Available NT Development Tools in OS/2 .INF Format
winner.zip 921215 NT Programming Environment
winnt.txt 930205 Contents of WINNT forum libraries on CIS (31 Jan 93)
wnt001.zip 921215 NT, Beta October 1992 - Boot Workaround
wnt003.zip 930205 Fixes for HP Deskjet printing with NT
wnt004.zip 930205 Fixes bug with Floppy based install of NT
wnt005.zip 930301 Fixes the problem with Cirrus Video Cards
wmodnt10.zip 921027 MOD-Player for Windows/NT
winntnet.zip 930215 Win-NT-Net File Distribution Network Info
wvnnt75a.zip 930210 NNTP Newsreader for NT Version 0.75a
wvnsrc75.zip 930210 NNTP Newsreader for NT Version 0.75a Source
wywo32.zip 930301 While you were out NT Version
xmpl.zip 921215 Holeport OS/2 to Nt porting example
xvi.exe 930215 Port of xvi for NT (exe)
xvidiff.zip 930215 Port of xvi for NT (src diffs)
xvisrc.zip 930215 port of xvi for NT (src)
>From Jim Dempsey - jjd@bbn.com
You will be able to do telnet and ftp from NT to Sun.
There is no NFS server that I know of at this time for NT.
Sun is evidently working on an NFS client for PC/NFS for NT, but it
isn't currently available.
You can't telnet from Sun to NT and I suspect you can't ftp either.
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