My original post:
> Sun-Managers,
>
> My configuration:
>
> Sparc 1+ 16M
> SunOS 4.1.3
> Sunlink DNI 7.0
> OW 3
>
> When I am running cmdtool and dnilogin to another node, the scrollbar disappears
> and it begins to behave like a shelltool. When I eventually logoff and return
> control to my local node, the scrollbar returns. This doesn't happen if I use
> rlogin from cmdtool instead of dnilogin; the scrollbar stays in place and works
> as expected. Why would dnilogin cause cmdtool to eliminate it's scrollbar?
> It happens whether I am dnilogin'ing to another Sun or a VAX.
>
> Any clues as to whether it is possible to get cmdtool to work correctly with
> dnilogin? I need it to access a VAX correctly; the scrollbar is almost
> essential. The response is so fast that I can't get in a ^S in time to keep
> the output from rolling off the screen, and since the VAX doesn't have a
> 'more' function there is no convenient way to view output that is more
> than one physical screen.
My thanks to the following for their responses:
macphed@dvinci.usask.ca (Ian MacPhedran)
danny@ews7.dseg.ti.com
adam%bwnmr4@harvard.harvard.edu (Adam Shostack)
milt@PE-Nelson.COM (Milt Ratcliff)
mdl@cypress.com (J. Matt Landrum)
"Derrick J. Brashear" <db74+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Peter Samuel <peters@megadata.mega.oz.au>
csdnet!ilbeig@uunet.UU.NET (Amir Ilbeig)
fd@kolibri.fm.bs.dlr.de (Frank Dzaak FF-FM (+49) 531/395-2706)
Dave@usppc.abb.com
rlg@ida.org (Randy garrett)
The responses fell into these groups:
1) The overwhelming (and the best, I think) choice is to use xterm. It
has a scrollbar, emulates a VT100 window, and does what I need it to do.
I am once again a happy camper.
2) A couple people felt the problem had to do with my VMS configuration, but
that is not the case. As I said in my original post, if I call dnilogin from
a cmdtool, the scrollbar disappears no matter what the destination node is, be
it a VAX or a Sun.
3) A couple people suggested I use the /PAGE option in VMS to do what 'more'
in Unix does. That might be OK if every VMX command supported /PAGE, but that
isn't true. For example, the SHOW QUEUE command doesn't, and that one is of
particular interest to me. I could also kludge it with the /OUTOUT switch, and
then edit the response, but that is a slow and cumbersome way to work.
4) Some suggested other solutions, like 'jeterm', 'tee', 'script', UCX
(Ultrix connection) or TGV Multinet. I will look into these as time permits.
5) Someone claimed they used xterm for dnilogin, but that the scrolling is
deactivated. I don't understand that response, since it seems to work fine for
me, and apparently everyone that provided response 1).
6) A couple people didn't understand the nature of my problem, and suggested
shelltool instead. Sorry if I didn't explain my problem well enough; I was
interested in getting the scrollbar working, and shelltool (by default) doesn't
have one.
Thanks again for all your replies.
John
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