Using a terminal as console (summary)

From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge (jeremy@softway.sw.oz.au)
Date: Thu Apr 23 1992 - 08:33:33 CDT


As seems to be the rule, there was tonnes of mostly useful response to my question:

>I have a SS1 with CG3 frame buffer and Type 4 keyboard (surprise, surprise).
>I also have a pretty dumb terminal connected to ttya. I'm wondering if its possible
>to make the terminal the console, and run a getty on the frame buffer as a terminal.

Pretty much everyone was helpful on the first point (make the terminal a console),
but noone could really help with the other (run a getty on the frame buffer as a
terminal). Although I know how to make a serial port a console on a SS1 with
the OpenPROM, I got lots of detail for other machines with other prom versions.

My guess about running getty on the frame buffer:
Getty needs a terminal type device. Normally, this is provided by the PROM monitor
with its console device, since the kernel itself has no specific drivers for text
on a GC3 (I think). However, since the prom is occupied making the terminal on
ttya be the console, it cannot also put a terminal emulator onto the frame buffer,
and provide a tty type interface. This suggests that another program to drive the
frame buffer as a tty is needed, then run getty on the /dev entry thus provided.
I think someone mentioned such a program here a while ago (tconsole?). I don't think
this is what it was written for, but it could work.

Many thanks to:

Charles Grady <cgrady@eng.auburn.edu>
stern@sunne.East.Sun.COM (Hal Stern - NE Area Systems Engineer)
Edward J. Hartnett <ejh@khonshu.Colorado.EDU>
Frank Kuiper <frankk@cwi.nl>
Swa.Frantzen@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Francois Frantzen)
mis@seiden.com (Mark Seiden)
was@gdwb.OZ.AU
pauline@sunaus.oz.au (Pauline van Winsen)
Perry_Hutchison.Portland@xerox.com
Ken Nawyn <ken@nynexst.com>
Mathew BM LIM <M.Lim@anu.edu.au>
Wilson N G <noel@essex.ac.uk>
Arie Bikker <aribi@geo.vu.nl>
Rick Dipper <rick@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk>
ctm@sleepy.boeing.com (chuck malmsten)

>From cgrady@eng.auburn.edu Wed Apr 15 22:39:51 1992
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From: Charles Grady <cgrady@eng.auburn.edu>
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To: sun-managers@eecs.nwu.edu, jeremy
Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console
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I'm sorry this can't be done. If your system was a Sun 4/1xx or a 4/2xx system,
yes no problem, all you would have to do is reprogram EEPROM location 0x1f for
serial port ttya to become your console terminal.

Sorry,

Charles Grady CSE Systems Engineer
Auburn University
Computer Science & Engineering Department.
Ex-Sun Microsystems Support Engineer( Smile ).

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From: stern@sunne.East.Sun.COM (Hal Stern - NE Area Systems Engineer)
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Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console
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sun consulting has a package called CONSULT-REMOTECONSOLE
that allows just this

call 415 336 2400 for details

--hal

>From frankk@cwi.nl Thu Apr 16 02:24:44 1992
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To: Charles Grady <cgrady@eng.auburn.edu>
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From: Frank Kuiper <frankk@cwi.nl>
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> Charles Grady <cgrady@eng.auburn.edu> writes
> on Wed, 15 Apr 1992 07:38:31 -0600:
> I'm sorry this can't be done. If your system was a Sun 4/1xx or a 4/2xx sy
     stem,
> yes no problem, all you would have to do is reprogram EEPROM location 0x1f
      for
> serial port ttya to become your console terminal.

I beg to differ. I'm sure you can set the eeprom from
input-device=keyboard
to something like:
input-device=/dev/ttya

Here we're using a Sparc 1 with an Ampex terminal as console.
Albeit there is no (bitmapped) console on this machine, but there is
a graphics board on the S-bus.

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>From Swa.Frantzen%cs.kuleuven.ac.be@munnari.cs.mu.oz.au Thu Apr 16 02:34:43 1992
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From: Swa.Frantzen@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Francois Frantzen)
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To: jeremy (Jeremy Fitzhardinge)
Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console
Status: RO

In article <9204150925.AA17903@softway.sw.oz.au>, you write:
|> I have a SS1 with CG3 frame buffer and Type 4 keyboard (surprise, surprise).
|> I also have a pretty dumb terminal connected to ttya. I'm wondering if its possible
|> to make the terminal the console, and run a getty on the frame buffer as a terminal.

Well, I tried such a thing on a SPARCSTATION 2 (before
returning it to our dealer, it was a demo containing amongst
other nice things some kind of color monitor)

I wanted to run xdm on the console, making it just a plain xterminal
(I hate openwindows)
and have the console on a normal terminal.

In the prom, one can specify the console is to go to the ttya (or ttyb)
port without any problems. (Sun sells "headless" SPARCstions to be used
as little server (they work very good)) I think this can be done with
any sun3 or sun4.

The problem you'll face is that you need to get the devices working agian,
so that you have a device for every function of your keyboard, mouse
and display.

I tried for about half a day before giving it up, but I once saw
somebody claiming to have succeeded, so whatever they tell you keep
on trying (and looking through some archives of news) and post the solution.

Currently I don't have any appropriate machine to experiment with,
although a sun3/50 might qualify as test machine.

Please note the terminal emulation on the graphical
console of a SPARC (so you don't start sunview,openwindows, nor X11)
slows down the machine to the speed of an old sun3 server. (that's
why we bought headless servers)

A headless server and an x-terminal might even come cheaper :-)
And it is always a good idea to keep the disks in the computer-room.

-- 
Swa Frantzen
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>From mis@seiden.com Thu Apr 16 08:11:46 1992 Received-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 08:11:42 est Received: from munnari.cs.mu.oz via swift.sw.oz by softway.sw.oz.au with MHSnet id AA20595; Thu, 16 Apr 92 08:11:42 est (4.12) (from mis@seiden.com for jeremy) Received: from uu.psi.com by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA20281; Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:10:42 +1000 (from seiden.com!mis@seiden.com) Received: from seiden.com by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.1.031792-PSI/PSINet) id AA12867; Wed, 15 Apr 92 17:46:54 -0400 Received: from c1.seiden.com by seiden.com (4.0/1.39) id AA01619; Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:20:10 EDT Received: by c1.seiden.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00816; Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:20:09 EDT From: mis@seiden.com (Mark Seiden) Message-Id: <9204152020.AA00816@c1.seiden.com> Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console To: jeremy (Jeremy Fitzhardinge) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:20:08 EDT In-Reply-To: <9204150925.AA17903@softway.sw.oz.au>; from "Jeremy Fitzhardinge" at Apr 15, 92 7:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: RO

> > I have a SS1 with CG3 frame buffer and Type 4 keyboard (surprise, surprise). > I also have a pretty dumb terminal connected to ttya. I'm wondering if its possible > to make the terminal the console, and run a getty on the frame buffer as a terminal. > > Thanks, > Jeremy > > -- > jeremy@softway.sw.oz.au ph:+61 2 698 2322-x122 fax:+61 2 699 9174 > Many a wonderful picnic has been spoiled by Blubberknife. > >

there seems to be a console field in the eeprom. on an ss1 it might be input-device instead.

-- mark seiden, mis@seiden.com, 1-(203) 329 2722 (voice), 1-(203) 322 1566 (fax)

>From pauline@sunaus.sun.oz.au Thu Apr 16 08:46:59 1992 Received-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 08:46:54 est Received: from sunaus.sun.oz via swift.sw.oz by softway.sw.oz.au with MHSnet id AA20883; Thu, 16 Apr 92 08:46:54 est (4.12) (from pauline@sunaus.sun.oz.au for jeremy) Received: from basil.Aus.Sun.COM by sunaus.Aus.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27921; Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:37:37 EST Received: by basil.Aus.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24096; Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:37:35 EST Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:37:35 EST From: pauline@sunaus.oz.au (Pauline van Winsen) Message-Id: <9204152137.AA24096@basil.Aus.Sun.COM> To: jeremy%softway.sw.oz@sunaus Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console Status: RO

Hi Jeremy,

> I have a SS1 with CG3 frame buffer and Type 4 keyboard (surprise, surprise). > I also have a pretty dumb terminal connected to ttya. I'm wondering if its possible > to make the terminal the console, and run a getty on the frame buffer as a terminal.

Hmmm, an interesting question. You probably can do it, though it would require some munging. The problem is how to run a getty on the frame buffer? Making the terminal the console is just a matter of changing the nvram parameters.

If you just want to re-direct console messages, you can simply edit syslog.conf & have messages go to ttya/ttyb & have a login on your terminal.

Let me know if you get any positive responses, I'd be curious to see if anyone has done this.

Cheers, Pauline

>From Perry_Hutchison.Portland@xerox.com Thu Apr 16 09:04:27 1992 Received-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:04:23 est Received: from munnari.cs.mu.oz via swift.sw.oz by softway.sw.oz.au with MHSnet id AA21053; Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:04:23 est (4.12) (from Perry_Hutchison.Portland@xerox.com for jeremy) Received: from alpha.Xerox.COM by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA21507; Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:03:26 +1000 (from Perry_Hutchison.Portland@xerox.com) Received: from Mail1.Portland.Xerox.xns by alpha.xerox.com via XNS id <11870>; Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:03:01 PDT X-Ns-Transport-Id: 0000AA007BF497322DA8 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:29:14 PDT From: Perry_Hutchison.Portland@xerox.com Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console To: jeremy Reply-To: Perry_Hutchison.Portland@xerox.com Message-Id: <"15-Apr-92 15:29:14 PDT".*.Perry_Hutchison.Portland@Xerox.com> Status: RO

> make the terminal the console, and run a getty on the frame buffer > as a terminal.

I don't think so. You can set the eerom to use ttya as the console, but that is intended for a system having neither a keyboard nor a frame buffer (i.e. a server configuration). It makes /dev/console and /dev/ttya equivalent, so you have nothing to run the console getty on. (I don't think you can't run it directly on /dev/fb.)

>From ken@nynexst.com Thu Apr 16 09:27:20 1992 Received-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:27:17 est Received: from munnari.cs.mu.oz via swift.sw.oz by softway.sw.oz.au with MHSnet id AA21200; Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:27:17 est (4.12) (from ken@nynexst.com for jeremy) Received: from nynex-ms.nynexst.com by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA22176; Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:26:23 +1000 (from ken@nynexst.com) Received: from mailer.nynexst.com ([128.209.1.79]) by nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07552; Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:57:18 EDT Received: from panic.nynexst.com by mailer.nynexst.com (3.2/SMI-DDN) id AA28720; Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:54:38 EDT Received: from localhost by panic.nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07729; Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:54:06 EDT Message-Id: <9204152054.AA07729@panic.nynexst.com> To: jeremy (Jeremy Fitzhardinge) Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Apr 92 19:25:38 EST." <9204150925.AA17903@softway.sw.oz.au> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:54:05 -0400 From: Ken Nawyn <ken@nynexst.com> Status: RO

> I have a SS1 with CG3 frame buffer and Type 4 keyboard (surprise, > surprise). I also have a pretty dumb terminal connected to ttya. > I'm wondering if its p ossible to make the terminal the console, and > run a getty on the frame buffer as a terminal.

You can use the eeprom command to alter the console on most Sun workstations. A "man eeprom" on my workstation shows that you can set the console to one of the following: b&w, ttya, ttyb, color.

> Thanks, > Jeremy > > -- > jeremy@softway.sw.oz.au ph:+61 2 698 2322-x122 fax:+61 2 699 9174 > Many a wonderful picnic has been spoiled by Blubberknife.

_ken nawyn nynex s & t, inc ai/speech

>From mbl900@anusf.anu.edu.au Thu Apr 16 09:29:08 1992 Received-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:29:04 est Received: from munnari.cs.mu.oz via swift.sw.oz by softway.sw.oz.au with MHSnet id AA21218; Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:29:04 est (4.12) (from mbl900@anusf.anu.edu.au for jeremy) Received: from anusf.anu.edu.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA22251; Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:28:14 +1000 (from mbl900@anusf.anu.edu.au) Received: by anusf.anu.edu.au id AA21786 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for jeremy@softway.sw.oz.au); Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:27:11 +1000 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:27:11 +1000 From: Mathew BM LIM <M.Lim@anu.edu.au> Message-Id: <9204152327.AA21786@anusf.anu.edu.au> To: jeremy Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console Status: RO

> >I have a SS1 with CG3 frame buffer and Type 4 keyboard (surprise, surprise). >I also have a pretty dumb terminal connected to ttya. I'm wondering if its possible >to make the terminal the console, and run a getty on the frame buffer as a terminal. > >Thanks, > Jeremy > >-- >jeremy@softway.sw.oz.au ph:+61 2 698 2322-x122 fax:+61 2 699 9174 >Many a wonderful picnic has been spoiled by Blubberknife. >

This should be possible on a SS1, we tried something similar oan a 4/330 and only got partially there. The problem is in the eeprom.

What you need to do is eeprom input-device=ttya eeprom output-device=ttya This directs console I/O to ttya. Then it's just a matter of making sure that getty's are switched on both /dev/console and /dev/ttya in your /etc/ttytab file.

Our problem was that the 4/330 did not have input-device and output-device fields in the eeprom, only a console and a kbdtype. We set console=ttya, but this only seemed to redirect output to ttya, the input still had to come in the Sun keyboard, very annoying since the Sun monitor & keyboard was in a different room to the terminal on ttya.

Anyway, hope that works (I had not actually tried this on an SS1). If you get any responses regarding sucessful implementation on a Sun4 please let me know.

Mathew Lim, Unix Systems Programmer, ANU Supercomputer Facility, Australian National University, GPO Box 4, Canberra City, ACT, Australia 2601. Telephone : +61 06 249 2750 | ACSnet : M.Lim@anu.oz Fax : +61 06 247 3425 | Internet : M.Lim@anu.edu.au

>From noel@essex.ac.uk Thu Apr 16 15:17:53 1992 Received-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:17:49 est Received: from munnari.cs.mu.oz via swift.sw.oz by softway.sw.oz.au with MHSnet id AA23959; Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:17:49 est (4.12) (from noel@essex.ac.uk for jeremy) Received: from sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA03058; Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:16:57 +1000 (from noel@essex.ac.uk) Via: sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk; Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:14:21 +0100 Received: from solb1 by servax0.sx.ac.uk SMTP/TCP id aa25217; 16 Apr 92 6:15 WET DST From: Wilson N G <noel@essex.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 06:15:10 BST Message-Id: <24088.9204160515@solb1.essex.ac.uk> To: jeremy Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console Status: RO

Yes, you can use the setenv command to set the serial line parameters to be correct for your terminal, then to set it up as console. I don't have an SS1 at the moment (machines come and go through our lab), but the last one we had in I set up exactly this way.

>From @bronto.geo.vu.nl:aribi@geo.vu.nl@munnari.cs.mu.oz Thu Apr 16 22:02:35 1992 Received-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 22:02:32 est Received: from munnari.cs.mu.oz via swift.sw.oz by softway.sw.oz.au with MHSnet id AA25340; Thu, 16 Apr 92 22:02:32 est (4.12) (from @bronto.geo.vu.nl:aribi@geo.vu.nl@munnari.cs.mu.oz for jeremy) Received: from star.cs.vu.nl by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA11775; Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:46:35 +1000 (from @bronto.geo.vu.nl:aribi@geo.vu.nl) Received: from bronto.geo.vu.nl by star.cs.vu.nl id aa01986; 16 Apr 92 13:46 MET DST Received: from geo.vu.nl (gneis) by bronto.geo.vu.nl (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA13382; Thu, 16 Apr 92 13:46:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 13:46:24 +0200 From: Arie Bikker <aribi@geo.vu.nl> Message-Id: <9204161146.AA13382@bronto.geo.vu.nl> To: jeremy Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console Status: RO

Hello,

Only partly can i awnser your question. All our servers here have terminals as console. This is done by setting a flag in eeprom: /usr/etc/eeprom "console=ttya" on a 4/280 on an SS1 you would probably have to fiddle with /usr/etc/eeprom "input-device=keyboard" /usr/etc/eeprom "output-device=screen" i don't know how this will affect the possibilities of using the original keyboard and framebuf,

ok, it's not much, but it's for free ;)

Arie Bikker ___=======-----

------------------------------------ -- Drs. Arie Bikker -- -- Instituut voor Aardwetenschappen -- -- Vrije Universiteit -- -- Amsterdam Netherlands -- -- aribi@geo.vu.nl -- ------------------------------------

>From rick@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk Fri Apr 17 02:17:38 1992 Received-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 02:17:34 est Received: from munnari.cs.mu.oz via swift.sw.oz by softway.sw.oz.au with MHSnet id AA25829; Fri, 17 Apr 92 02:17:34 est (4.12) (from rick@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk for jeremy) Received: from mhs-relay.ac.uk by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA17482; Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:35:08 +1000 (from rick@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk) Received: from ean-relay.ac.uk by mhs-relay.ac.uk with SMTP inbound id <6797-0@mhs-relay.ac.uk>; Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:28:03 +0100 Received: from computer-science.manchester.ac.uk by Ean-Relay.AC.UK via Janet with NIFTP id aa05625; 16 Apr 92 16:09 BST Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 08:53:40 BST From: Rick Dipper <rick@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk> Message-Id: <9204160753.AA23543@rick.cs.man.ac.uk> To: jeremy Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console Status: RO

=-=> From sun-managers-request@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Wed Apr 15 21:49:37 1992 =-=> Original-Sender: sun-managers-relay@edu.nwu.eecs =-=> From: jeremy@softway.sw.oz.au (Jeremy Fitzhardinge) =-=> Subject: Using a terminal as console =-=> To: sun-managers@eecs.nwu.edu =-=> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 19:25:38 EST =-=> Organization: Softway Pty Ltd =-=> X-Face: '6U=%Tv\k1<Ek%ql%PN^v`Db4bakr[v~y]\u7"GbO#I=]N{l1=#P,glz$9q>l-:?\$C[D@G =-=> 7(vl~w8&y}!f\bh#w<Y*S~bEBTI:s&.QR>L#n,TGKh>T.c7eT5-y)Hl'i;A1z$9?*lD.k}yqshddFb =-=> l[EC}c=;uc%x'}uh3E91p&oE<q$w1r&U0yw.Sb3V&uw =-=> Sender: sun-managers-request@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk =-=> =-=> I have a SS1 with CG3 frame buffer and Type 4 keyboard (surprise, surprise). =-=> I also have a pretty dumb terminal connected to ttya. I'm wondering if its possible =-=> to make the terminal the console, and run a getty on the frame buffer as a terminal. =-=> =-=> Thanks, =-=> Jeremy =-=> =-=> -- =-=> jeremy@softway.sw.oz.au ph:+61 2 698 2322-x122 fax:+61 2 699 9174 =-=> Many a wonderful picnic has been spoiled by Blubberknife. =-=>

alter the valule in the eeprom, see the eeprom manual on how to do this

RICK DIPPER, Unix Systems Administrator rick@uk.ac.man.cs Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester 061-275-5725 .............................Meemberrr the of Fumblee Ingers Culb..............

>From ctm@sleepy.boeing.com Fri Apr 17 04:19:28 1992 Received-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 04:19:24 est Received: from munnari.cs.mu.oz via swift.sw.oz by softway.sw.oz.au with MHSnet id AA26104; Fri, 17 Apr 92 04:19:24 est (4.12) (from ctm@sleepy.boeing.com for jeremy) Received: from atc.boeing.com by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA20103; Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:05:56 +1000 (from ctm@sleepy.boeing.com) Received: by atc.boeing.com on Thu, 16 Apr 92 10:52:15 PDT Received: from augie.nis.boeing.com by sleepy.nis.boeing.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15894; Thu, 16 Apr 92 11:01:22 PDT Received: by augie.nis.boeing.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05756; Thu, 16 Apr 92 11:01:23 PDT Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 11:01:23 PDT From: ctm@sleepy.boeing.com (chuck malmsten) Message-Id: <9204161801.AA05756@augie.nis.boeing.com> To: jeremy Subject: Re: Using a terminal as console Cc: cgrady@eng.auburn.edu Status: RO

We are running 3 ss1 with a vt100 as the console via ttya. Connect your dump terminal to ttya ( my ss1 has ttya set as 9600,8,n,1)

halt the system to get to monitor mode. enter: n setenv input-device ttya setenv output-device ttya reset

When the system boots, we see "using ttya for input" displayed on the Color Monitor, then boot messages are displayed on the dumb terminal.

The 2nd part of your question, (running getty on the color monitor) I don't know about. On our ss1, after the system boots, we start up Openwindows, and use the color monitor to display output re-directed from another workstation via Openwindows. It was a real pain to get this to work, because we had to make dummy keyboard and mouse entries so openwindows would be happy. Until we did that (3 or 4 calls to sun - some told us it couldn't be done) openwindows would quit upon startup.

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-- jeremy@softway.sw.oz.au ph:+61 2 698 2322-x122 fax:+61 2 699 9174 Many a wonderful picnic has been spoiled by Blubberknife.



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